Posts tagged ‘State Premier League’
In amongst the Perth Glory’s pre-season fixtures are two games listed against a WA State Team, a fixture that has become a regular one in recent years. A fixture that although it may not be popular with the Perth Glory coaches as State League players try and prove a point is a game that is important to the game as a whole.
The timing of these games is however not the best. The first game scheduled for August 21st comes in between round 20 and 21 of the State Premier League, a competition that has a total of 22 fixtures before the finals series.
It is going to put both players and clubs in a very awkward position. Clubs will suffer criticism if they do not allow a player to have the honour of representing his state, and the players will be torn between staying with their club and ensuring they make the finals, or avoid relegation, and will know that this could actually be a distraction. Also with the game being played on a Tuesday night training evening, it will again put unnecessary pressure on all concerned as to what is the right thing to do.
As the home and away season finishes on the 8th of September and the second game is to be played on Wednesday 12th, one wonders if Football West is planning a week off before the finals for this game, if not again the top sides will be loathe to release players, and it creates an awkward situation. if so why not play the game on the Saturday?
These issues aside, one that needs to be addressed is whether this team is going to be a legitimate State team, or is it in fact going to be a State League Team; an issue Not the Footy Show raised a year ago.
Last year the side was made up of almost 50% visa players and therefore should have been a State League side. To play for Western Australia the criteria always was that you had to be an Australian citizen or at least have permanent residency. It is a huge honour to play for Western Australia and this honour in respect of those who have gone before should not be diluted.
The other reason why it should be a State team with no imports is this game is supposed to be the chance for the best players in the state to show the Perth Glory coaching staff that they have what it takes to be given a chance in the Hyundai A league. With a limit on visa spots in the A league; a foreign player playing in a State competition is going to have to be an absolute stand out or a low cost option for an A League coach to sign them. Most would rather sign talented local players and rely on filling the visa spots with players with proven track records.
Tradition in sport is essential, history is what the future is built on, and we must protect that past to safeguard the future. It is therefore important that the difference as to whether this is a State Team or a State League team comprising of the best players in the League should be made clear early on and when the game is played.
It is a relief that the transfer window in the State League in Western Australia has finally closed. It seems crazy that with more than half the season gone players were still able to change clubs. This situation needs to be looked at and players should be locked in earlier in the season, and possibly a one-week window opened at the halfway point so players who are not getting game time can explore the possibility of changing to a club that will give them a start, or clubs can find cover for injured players.
However these were the rules this season, and you work within those rules. What has been disappointing, and many clubs are raising this issue, is that despite signs at every ground with the word “Respect” emblazoned on it, some clubs or coaches have showcased a complete lack of respect for their fellow coaches or their fellow clubs.
What has been happening is coaches have been approaching players directly to try and entice them to their club; we must state that this is not the case at all clubs. It has always been the unwritten rule that before speaking to a player, the coach or the club making the approach would contact the club or coach they wish to take the player from and ask if it was all right to talk to them. In most cases clubs would advise the player and allow him to talk to them if he wished to hear what was on offer. This season that common courtesy has been thrown out of the window, and that is a very sad day for the game.
The reason given by one club, was that the player concerned was not on a professional contract so therefore was ‘fair game.’ That may well be the case but if the game is to improve its standing and reputation there needs to be standards that are adhered to and respect shown to fellow clubs and coaches. This attitude is both selfish and ultimately undermines the many people trying to do things the right way.
Finally, it is only right to lay some blame at the feet of certain players who willingly open dialogue with a club while still being paid by another and not advising their current employer of the approach. Players will always be “tapped” as to whether they may consider a move, but once an official move is being considered the coaches and the clubs should talk to each other, and only then should the player discuss terms.
Hopefully this behavior, which seems to have been more prevalent this year, will soon be stamped out, as it is ultimately not helping the game and shows a complete lack of respect, something we are all trying to bring back to football.
When the FFA announced that they intended to have all of their development sides playing in the top competitions of each state, we applauded the concept and were sure that this would ultimately benefit the game as a whole.
Now in its second year in Western Australia, we have grave doubts over the idea.
The lower age structure of the NTC should not be tampered with as it has proven that it is paying dividends with the Under Age sides from Western Australia performing superbly in national age-restricted competitions. This has been extremely positive and has also resulted in WA having more players considered for the Australian Institute of Sport program than previously; a Program that will hopefully improve under the guidance of Tony Vidmar, as it stalled under the control of Dutch coach Jan Versleijen.
The question that arises when it comes to the NTC side playing the in State Premier League is whether it is benefitting all concerned, and whether it is in fact making the players better players.
This season 14 games into the Premier League the NTC have not won a game. Last year was a similar story. If these players are ready for the next step these would not be the results. Losing every week cannot be good for any young player, and we have been advised that some have stated that they no longer are enjoying the game. Which is sad and ultimately could see a young talent walk away from the game, which surely defeats the object of the whole NTC program.
Once these boys reach 17 years of age would these players not be better off playing with grown men rather than against them? Imagine if Ryan Giggs have been held back in the youth team at Manchester United, along with David Beckham and Paul Scholes or Wayne Rooney at Everton, how would their games have progressed?
Pele and Norman Whiteside were playing in World Cup finals at 17. These two players may well be exceptions but it proves that if you are good enough, you’re old enough.
The NTC does serve a vital role in bringing through young talent, but at 17 that talent should be set free. If the A League clubs have spotted a player’s talent, and they should be looking at these boys from the time they are 13 or 14, then they should pick them up and continue their development – Although we believe you have to be 18 to sign for an A league club, but they could be signed to their youth set up.
If the boys have faith in their own abilities and are overlooked in Australia then they can head overseas and try their luck, and should they obtain a contract then the NTC has achieved another success.
Some players however will mature late, and some may never make it to the next level, so the highest they will ever play is in the State League, where they could undoubtedly shine.
By delaying their entry into a man’s world are we not in fact stunting these players development? By having them take the field each weekend and lose are we not destroying their enjoyment of the game? These and other questions need to be asked and considered seriously, before we lose these players to the game completely. It certainly would appear that what appeared to be a good idea is one that is in fact currently helping very few.
The signs appear to be positive for the A League if recent statistics are the measuring stick.
The FFA announced that a cumulative total of 1,416,157 fans went through the turnstiles this season to watch games is up on the previous season-high total of 1,393,933.
This aggregate was reached by playing 30 less matches due to the demise of North Queensland Fury.
This season also saw an increase in the number of goals being scored with an average of 2.7 goals per match. The television audiences have also increased by a massive 46% from last season, which seems a huge leap if so many people are also watching games live.
The feeling amongst many is that these figures are being skewed to give the results everyone wants to hear. That football is indeed on the rise in Australia.
It is interesting to note that every year since the A League’s inception, with the exception of 2008/09 we have seen an increase in crowd figures.
Yet the average attendances have in fact gone down the past two years from 12,180 a game in 08/09 to 10,449 in 09/10 to 8,822 in 10/11. The figures for 2010/11 have yet to be announced.
This season it was sad to hear many in the crowd laugh when a figure was announced at NIB Stadium, home of Perth Glory, as regulars in the ground were convinced that there was no way the crowd figure announced was in attendance.
There is no doubt that the return of Harry Kewell and Bret Emerton had a momentary surge on crowd figures, but soon that would have dipped, as their impact became less than the FFA would have hoped. It was always foolish to base your marketing around to big names returning at the end of their careers. There is too much football on television for modern day fans to be conned.
Despite the positive vibe coming out of the FFA we are sadly skeptical as to whether these statistics are in fact reflecting the true story of the Hyundai A league.
Perth Glory for years the best supported club in the country in the NSL, had no trouble selling 35,000 tickets for a semi final in the NSL. Yet this weekend playing their first home final since the start of the Hyundai A League they only managed to pull in 12,600 fans – The Western Force rugby union side had a bigger crowd v the Queensland Reds the night before! This crowd is a disaster for football in Western Australia and for Perth Glory. If they cannot fill the stadium with finals football, why would an owner continue to plough millions of dollars into the club?
Some will say the game wasn’t marketed well. We would agree, but the finger cannot be pointed at the club on this occasion, as the marketing of the Finals is the FFA’s responsibility.
The fact that so few attended and that they could not sell out the stadium tells us that Football is going backwards in Western Australia. That may sound pessimistic and negative, but it is also the very sad truth. Quite simply fans of the game for whatever reason are opting not to support the game at the highest level in Western Australia.
Next week’s game against Wellington Phoenix may in fact witness even less fans attending with the game scheduled for 5.30pm on a Saturday, when all the State Premier League games do not finish until around 5pm. Scheduling that does not help Perth Glory in the slightest.
So why are people no longer attending games? We believe that despite the hype the standard of the Hyundai A league is in fact going backwards. There have been some exceptional displays from Perth Glory this season, as well as Brisbane Roar, but in the main the standard is slipping. Couple that with the demise of the Fury and possibly Gold Coast United – and everyone forgets the NZ Knights – we are heading back to the sad old days of the NSL. Journeyman players doing the rounds of the clubs, sprinkled with some talent before it heads overseas, and clubs coming and going every two or three years. Let us hope we are wrong.
Do you believe that the standard of football has improved?
It was back on May the 18th of 2011 that “Not the Footy Show” broke the story about Perth Glory’s intention to take over Inglewood United (“Glory in State League”) and have a team in the Western Australian State league. This now appears to be a reality.
As stated then we worried that this would be pushed through and not be given adequate thought, and it appears that this could well be the case.
“Not the Footy Show” understands that Perth Glory’s Recruitment Manager Graham Normanton will be the man at the helm with former Glory legend Bobby Despotovski involved with the coaching.
It is “Not the Footy Show’s” understanding that at the Football West AGM in December a representative of Inglewood United attending chose to say nothing on the matter when it was raised, and at a recent state league club Presidents meeting again information on how this arrangement is to work was again not forthcoming.
Having made a few phone calls “Not The Footy Show” has been advised by legal experts involved in the sporting sphere, that Football West acting on behalf of the FFA who in turn act on behalf of FIFA, have every right, and are in fact obliged to request complete disclosure as to the arrangements between the two parties before allowing the newly created ‘Inglewood Glory’ to compete.
Apparently a fully professional privately owned club buying into a semi- professional club – be it community based or otherwise – in another competition falls under the auspices of Competition Law, and all financial arrangements and structures must be disclosed to the game’s governing body, to ensure that true and perfect practice in its operations are carried out.
This makes perfect sense. This is for the protection of all concerned. It prevents the professional club putting untold pressure on young players to come and play for them with the hook of a possible full time contract. That is not good for the League, the clubs or the players concerned.
As stated back in May there is merit in this move, but it should not be rushed and for it to be accepted in 2012 is far too soon. There are many things that need to be disclosed and discussed before such a move should be accepted.
For example should the club be allowed to take its place in the State League competition when player compensation payments to those very same clubs who have developed players that they have signed have not been paid for three years?
This should certainly be a part of the agreement. The games governing body, in this case Football West should be insisting that such payments be made before the team is allowed to participate.
Such a move should not be rushed through, if it is it could cause irreparable damage to both the State League, which is already struggling, and also Perth Glory.
The announcement from Perth Glory yesterday that former Perth coach Graham Normanton would be the person to fill the new role of WA Recruitment Manager, came as no surprise to many. Once CEO Paul Kelly announced such a role on “Not The Footy Show” we stated that Normanton was favourite to fill the position.
If the club can now fast track him through his A and B Licences do not be surprised to see a Naven and Normanton coaching combination should the season not go according to plan.
Normanton’s appointment has already had many in the Perth football community sharpening their knives. Many believing that his success at Perth over an amazing twelve years was built on buying the best players rather than developing players, and at times buying players simply to prevent other clubs from having a key playmaker or goal scorer. This may be true to some extent however he still had to mould those players into a team.
The key issue is now going to be picking players who can go on and play at A League level. The past two McInerney Ford Gold medallists, (the state’s best player) Marc Anthony and David Micevski both had a taste of A League football but lacked the consistency to hold down a regular place. Anthony Skorich and Andrijia Jukic are two more standouts from the state league who had two years to force their way through but couldn’t. Tommy Amphlett must hold down a regular place in the side this year or he could well find himself back in the state league a year down the track.
Graham Normanton has a hard task ahead of him. This role is not going to be about simply watching State Premier League games, as the answers are probably not there. After all to be fair all the coaches since Ron Smith arrived, he and Dave Mitchell were regularly seen at games. Lee Bamber is always at State league games as is Ante Kovacevic, and Ian Gillan, so are another pair of eyes needed for the State Premier League?
One of the major flaws with the Perth Glory Youth set up – and we have raised this issue – is that trials are restricted to players from state Premier league sides and NTC. Yet when you start out in the game most children play for the club nearest to their home, because it is convenient to mum and dad who have to drive you there and pick you up. So the talent in say Gosnells, Rockingham or Ocean Reef is completely ignored. Hopefully Normanton in his new role will be visiting these areas on a regular basis to uncover diamonds that definitely exist.
He too should be visiting all of the schools to find talent coming through at that level that may not be playing in the Saturday leagues but opting to play with mates on a Sunday.
There is so much for him to do that one wonders if this was in fact the right structure. The club has just signed up Adrian Webster and Michael Garcia as ambassadors, maybe they too should have been given the role of scouts to unearth talent. However they may not have the ability to see the crucial components to make it to the next level, it is not as straightforward as some would have you believe, and some ex players have no idea about such things. Many a player has been invited in to train with the Glory who has shone in the state league, but has floundered.
As Todd Howarth – a rare player to make the step up at a more mature age – has said he was surprised at the jump and it took him time to adjust, ‘probably a season.’ That is why we have advocated Glory need to work with players outside of their club to assist in bringing them up to A League level.
Paul Kelly stated on “Not The Footy Show” that he was looking to recruit players from the ages 22-27 from the state league, as the club lacked players in this age bracket. As we stated previously, in Europe if you have not been picked up by 22 most clubs will not touch you due to the bad habits you already have. If this is Normanton’s brief, it is a concern and dare we say he is doomed to fail. If however he is being asked to identify younger talent that may make it in two to three years and the club is prepared to invest in those players with a long term goal, then he has a better chance of success. There is no doubt the net needed widening and he has the runs on the board in terms of success, so give the man a chance to prove his worth
First of all let us say that it is good to see the NTC (National Training Centre) playing in the All Flags State Premier League, and we applaud all those who made this happen. It is an essential part of the development of local players. What we do not applaud however was the condition that was placed on their entry by the club Presidents, that there are no points up for grabs in the games that they play.
How totally ridiculous and protectionist, maybe this reflects on what they really think of the teams that they have assembled. As has been shown so far the NTC will give a good account of themselves but the State League Premier league sides should and so far have overrun them. To have them play for no points shows that the Presidents did not honestly believe that their teams could beat this bunch of teenagers. If that is the belief then maybe you might start saving money and stop paying players inflated match fees.
We must again commend the powers that be at Football West who devised this year’s fixtures. With the NTC playing for no points there were many coaches who said that they would rest their first team players for these games. Football West have been clever in arranging the team who has the bye plays the NTC the following week, so to rest your first team players will mean that they will go two weeks without a game.
The only downside to this is the League table is going to start looking a little strange as you are going to have teams two games adrift on the ladder, as we saw this year with the Hyundai A League. This was a real turn off for fans of the A League and is likely to be the same at a local level.
Let us hope that next season commonsense prevails and we see the NTC playing for points.
There are many people who have been critical of Football West’s planned state league reform, but as is so often the case many have not seen the proposed changes. Whether Football West should have opened these reforms up to one and all is open to debate, but we are not going to discuss that here.
First of all there is no doubt that the State’s Premier football competition needs reform. What is sad is that it was not done way back in 2004 when Football West was formed and when the A League was being hatched. People may well have been more open to it then as the winds of change were blowing through football across the country.
There is no doubt that these reforms have been put together with the best intentions, and with the aim of making the game more professional as well as making it more marketable and attractive to spectators. However one cannot help feeling that a few independent viewpoints should have been invited during the process, as the clubs have strong views and so too do Football West.
Some of the changes are questionable in terms of whether they are essential at this point in time, and others seem to be a payoff for bigger issues.
Last year we stoked the fires of those people who love to debate who are the champions at the end of a league season, the team that finishes top of the League or those who win the finals series.
In the Football West State Premier league this year the Western Knights won the League title and Perth won the finals series. Both sides deserving to win their respective titles. Although the finals format used this year probably needs reviewing with one less game being played as it seems strange that the top team plays two games and if they lose one they fails to be Champion, while the teams that finish second and third get an extra chance to take the title.
As we said a year ago it may be semantics, but surely if you finish the League season top of the log you deserve more recognition than a term such as “Minor Premiers.” Why not call them League Premiers, especially as there is no team currently called “Premiers” at the end of the season. The team winning the finals series currently being crowned the “Champions.”
Please don’t give us comments such as this is the way it’s done in other codes reasoning. Does that mean its right?
Ask people you know who play sport how often they have won a league title over a whole season, it is a rare feat, and does not warrant being belittled by having the word ‘Minor’ preface that achievement.
Congratulations to all four teams in the finals of the Football West State Premier league, on putting on two superb games over the weekend. The football was great to watch and was what you would expect for finals football.
However, as in all things in life there are things that can be improved, and some may say we are picking holes, but there are a few things that maybe need to be looked at if we are to continue to take the game where it should be.
Looking at the Knights v Perth game for a start, there is a huge rivalry between the two teams and they have been two of the best teams in the league for the past eleven years thanks to the great work of Graham Normanton and Ronnie Campbell. But the Nash Field pitch was not up to the standard of the game. It was appalling and in truth even though the Knights won the right to host the game, the pitch was detrimental to the game itself. When you have a player dribbling the ball on the deck and then it bounces up and hits him on the knee because of the pitch, is that surface worthy of finals football? Sadly it is not. Both sets of players did extraordinarily well to play the football they did on such a pitch.
Secondly Stirling and Floreat dished out a humdinger of a finish in their game, with some of the best penalty taking I have witnessed for many a year. However as much as they have new lights at Macedonia Park, they were in this writer’s opinion not of a standard suitable to host a game, with areas of the pitch far darker than others, and the angle of the lights in spectators in the main stand’s eyes.
Football West have done well with the finals this year and have shown a great deal of thought splitting the times and the venues, but a question has to be asked does the six o’clock kick off work and how many people are watching both games? Having done so the past two weeks I am not sure that this has worked as well as people hoped. In fact the 6pm kick off on a Saturday night has not been a huge success full stop, as married fans are expected to be at home and players from other games in the main go out or go home.
Maybe the games should be played back to back at one venue, which would ensure a good crowd for both games. It was also reflect well on the video highlights which in turn would enable those at Football West charged with finding sponsorship to have a package to show provisional sponsors that would be attractive. The downside of this idea is the money made by the clubs concerned. With this option Football West would have to look at manning the gates and splitting the revenue four ways. Possible but an option that may get voted out by the clubs, however they need to be asking themselves what is best for the game, and which option could bring in more sponsors? More sponsors for the league see them benefit in the long term rather than the short.
It has been better this year than last year, but like everything in life you have to strive for excellence which means things can always improve. But well done Football West, and well done all the clubs concerned.